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01 Aug 2024 19:16 #902763 by RCNFL
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Hi, I recently (about 2 months ago) bought my first bike and have been getting a lot of good info from these forums.
This is my first post and my current issue I saw something similar to but not the exact information I require.
Last weekend my Lead-Acid battery died permanently after I took it to O'reilly's for a charge, so I opted to get a Lithium battery since it is less maintenance.
I bought an AG-801 Antigravity Battery but on the caution label it mentions that any/most pre-1990 Voltage Regulators should be updated before installing the battery to prevent risk of fire. Does anyone know a good/reliable KZ650 compatible RR or know how to check if the stock RR is suitable?
It also mentions on the label that RRs over 28 years old can cause a fire due to Over-Charging and I am curious if that has happened to anyone in the past. I would prefer to maintain and not burn out my bike the best I can.
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02 Aug 2024 04:55 #902782 by Wookie58
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It needs to be a "MOSFET" R/R for a lithium battery and install a 30amp fuse between the R/R and the battery on the main output (lithium battery fires are no joke !!!)
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02 Aug 2024 07:30 #902790 by Nessism
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Lithium batteries and old motorcycles are like oil and water. They don't mix. As I understand it, Li batteries must be charged at a lower voltage; 14.0 VDC max. You will need a special LI R/R that caps charge voltage, and they are NOT cheap. Rick's sells them.
My opinion, you would be miles ahead by using an AMG battery, and buy a SERIES type R/R like a Shindengen SH775. A series R/R will protect your stator from overheat damage, and AMG batteries are tried and true.
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02 Aug 2024 07:51 #902792 by Wookie58
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Lithium batteries and old motorcycles are like oil and water. They don't mix. As I understand it, Li batteries must be charged at a lower voltage; 14.0 VDC max. You will need a special LI R/R that caps charge voltage, and they are NOT cheap. Rick's sells them.Nessism wrote:
My opinion, you would be miles ahead by using an AMG battery, and buy a SERIES type R/R like a Shindengen SH775. A series R/R will protect your stator from overheat damage, and AMG batteries are tried and true.
I don't disagree Ed, lithium doesn't necc need a smaller voltage but it does need a stable output around 14.2v - 14.4v hence the need for a MOSFET R/R which gives that linear output. However given the safety issues associated with Lithium batteries I would only recommend where space is an issue (like my build where it needs to lie flat in the tailpiece and the ultrabat is smaller than a conventional battery) if you are using the stock battery location I would advise AGM every time
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02 Aug 2024 11:31 #902800 by RCNFL
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My only issue with AGM is the sizing doesnt match as they tend to be half an inch wider than the lead acid battery, but if I can find one that fits appropriately I may return the Lithium battery and purchase AGM instead.
As for returning the the stock Lead-Acid method, they are pretty cheap, I am just concerned I may have a charge issue.
Thanks again btw! Lots of helpful info here
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02 Aug 2024 11:33 #902801 by Nessism
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My only issue with AGM is the sizing doesnt match as they tend to be half an inch wider than the lead acid battery, but if I can find one that fits appropriately I may return the Lithium battery and purchase AGM instead.RCNFL wrote:
As for returning the the stock Lead-Acid method, they are pretty cheap, I am just concerned I may have a charge issue.
Thanks again btw! Lots of helpful info here
You won't have a charging issue if you get a SH775. And no counterfeit SH775's allowed.
Ed 1981 KZ750E2
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02 Aug 2024 13:10 - 02 Aug 2024 13:10 #902803 by hugo
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OK, I own a motorcycle not that old, a 1991 Zephyr 750. Have also installed voltage indicator on dash. Factory R/R would fluctuate wildly, sometimes going to almost 15VDC while riding. I changed the R/R to a Shindengen SH755 for this very same reason of running lithium battery.
The Shindengen SH755 keeps the voltage within 0.3VDC around 14VDC. Have been using a Lithium battery for about 2 years now and have had no issue whatsoever. .....and it is amazing how light the Lithium battery is.
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02 Aug 2024 15:57 #902806 by Scirocco
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I use a LiFePo battery (with an integrated load balancer) in my Z1 since 2018, never had any problems with the stock R/R hardware.
LiFePo batterys s don´t go rocket like Boom like pure lithium batterys.
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